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Okay, it's been a while since I've posted anything about BSG but I simply cannot resist.....


































WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON?!?!?!?

Tyrol, Rosalyn, Tighe, Sam, and the president's advisor = the last 5 Cylons?

Starbuck shows up again after her Viper blew up a few weeks ago and tells us that she has been to Earth?!?

What the heck has happened with Apollo? Da boy is making some bad choices lately. However, I'm not sure how much I can argue with what he had to say when he testified. I wish they could have made it sound less like a sermon, however. He sounded preachy - but he made some good points.

Ok, I figured Starbuck would be back in some capacity sooner or later. Katee Sackhoff signed a six year contract same as everyone else, she has not been released from it and the six years aren't up. Nice cliffhanger I think.

I'm thinking those guys aren't the final five. One, it's way too easy, just like making Baltar a Cylon was too easy. Two, Tyrol has a kid with Callie. Given the big deal made over Hera, either it's not Tyrol's kid (strikes me as unlike Callie) or he's human. Casts some doubt over the rest of 'em to me. Been wrong before tho.

Can't argue with ya about Lee. The guy either needs his attitude adjusted or the Old Man adjusted him too far in that last argument and now they are both too proud to back down. And as usual, Lee and the Old Man are both right while they are at it. And it's very unlike our prim and proper former CAG to go stealing a Viper too. Tsk tsk.

I don't think he stole it, the deck hands probably thought that they could use all the Vipers in the air as possible.

As for Tyrol, Rosalyn, Tighe, Sam, I think that its a byproduct from the Cylon research. The one's who created the Cylons probably did some testing on humans as well. Another thing to note was that the "music" seemed to be coming from the ship. Tyrol went wondering down into the bowls of the ship following it. I would think that since the Galactica was in the first war, it may have been used for Anti-Cylon experiments that were black ops, hush-hush, and everyone who knew about it either were killed off or never talked. It is probably just genetic material passed down for most of them, but Tighe may have been silently drafted into the test.

As for Starbuck, it maybe something the 13th tribe left in her DNA and that the apparent death of her was only an entry point into the next level reality. What gets me was she only showed up on Apollos radar.

Not Roslyn. She is probably being affected either by the transfusion from Hera, the kamala she's taking that gives her funky visions, or both. I'm very curious about the power outage thing, though, and her coincidental weakness at that time.

He didn't steal the Viper. Granted he wasn't assigned, but rules are lax, there was the power outage and Cylon appearance, all was chaos, and anyone if asked would surely agree that they needed any qualified pilot. Probably including Mr. Agathon. Lee gave a thumbs-up to the launch supervisor, he's not leading the squadron, and he called himself off when he went to check out the bogey. I'm not sure she showed up only on his dradis, either - could just be everyone else was focused on the obvious enemy presence.

One overview I saw of the episode noted the irony of the look at the end between Tigh and Tory, affirming their allegiance as the right hands of the most powerful humans in the fleet even as they were digesting their own shocking revelation.

Timberwolf has an interesting idea there and one I've not seen or considered previously. I doubt that's actually it, but there could be jewels there.

I thought it was a great episode. A lot of mediocre episodes this season, but this was really, really good. Tigh's speech ("...and if I die today... ") and Lee's speech ("It's about shame!") most especially stood out.

Some questions about these four being Cylons:

1) Tyrol & Callie's kid. If he's a Cylon, then the kid should be like Hera, if it's his.
2) The ones with the fleet at the time did not seem to be affected by the radiation in the nebula with the armory in the pilot episode, as were the other Cylons.
3) First-season episode "33" had the humans tired enough for walking dead, except Boomer. We know Boomer was a Cylon. Tigh and Tyrol were pretty haggard. I believe Tory was too. Sam was still on Caprica. Someone pointed out that Tigh did give up one of his 30-minute rest periods to Adama ("If the Old Man can't remember, it's his turn.") but I don't think that's conclusive.

One of this season's episodes, when Baltar was with the Xenabot, they talked about the Final Five and he was told they were "fundamentally different." Anyone have that ep recorded? I want that dialog, darn it! It was obviously prior to "The eye of Jupiter" but I don't remember which one.

Porsche, thanks for starting this. I was going to but you beat me to it.

BTW, if you didn't know (and I didn't) that song they had so much fun with in that ep was "All Along the Watchtower" by Bob Dylan. Also done by Jimi Hendrix and others.

Okay, I cannot deny that I new that Starbuck would be back. Just like I knew that they would not find Baltar guilty and shove his butt out an airlock. Their characters are both too central to the whole BSG universe that the show simply could not go one without them.

I'll also buy the idea that these folks are not Cylons, but I also don't buy some of the arguments against them being Cylons, either. For example, in the original mini-series they weren't in the nebula long enough for the radiation to affect them. As for Tyrol and Callie's kid, who's to say whether or not he is like Hera? At this point we just don't know.

(BTW - Xenabot? ROFL!)

Finally....

WHAT'S UP WITH MAKING US WAIT UNTIL 2008?!?!? I mean, come ON... it's only MARCH for crying out loud!!!

I'm officially ticked.

http://post-gazette.com/pg/07085/770732-352.stm

Link to interview with Ron Moore. OMG, I am going to go digest awhile.

Your right, thats a lot to digest.

In the interview Ron stated that the final five were fundamentally different. Apparently something in the Pegasus's history after the destruction of the Colonies is playing a role in some of the events to come (the flash backs to show these are said to be aired in the fall of this year). He also stated that something about that place and time is what caused the music in their minds to help them learn their real identities. But as stated prior, the fact that they reaffirmed their allegiances to Adama and Roslyn. Ron also said that the Chief son is also a half-human-cylon child, but also stated that it may not be the only other one out there in the fleet (the last unknown model maybe having a family). Roslyn's vision is probably only happening because of the blood transfusion. Hera is from common Cylon blood, which Six is also made of, so there is a form of connection there.

Also, something that came across my mind concerning the virus that was killing off the Cylons. Why didn't the fleet spread it to all of the ships to help find and eliminate any more cylons that may still be hiding. It could have been used as a primitive test and as an anti-cylon boarding weapon.

It sounds like that Galactica will be brought to an end in the next season or two. Ron hinted towards this when he stated that they would be dusting off the hover bikes. They will probably take a cue from the original series and make the world not as advanced as they are, but not completely defenseless.

The final 7 minutes on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_Io7XSuulk

They were singing that song all along.

Yup. That song. Wonder how many people are digging that out of their collections or looking for it now.

WHAT'S UP WITH MAKING US WAIT UNTIL 2008?!?!? I mean, come ON... it's only MARCH for crying out loud!!!

I'm officially ticked.

Definitely. Though, according to that interview, there'll be a two-hour thing toward the end of the year.