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Atheist · Post by **Atheist** » Thu May 16, 2002 3:43 pm

Hey all, To put it all shortly, I have a mobo and a cpu combo that doesn't work. I can't figure out which one. I *suspect* that the mobo is the culprit because when I try to boot up, the fan spins, the harddrives spin, and the lights come up buuuut nothing on screen. In fact, the power LED on my screen flashes indicating that there is no signal going to the screen. Curious. I have no reason to believe that the CPU is damaged and I think the problem is with the mobo because when I was putting the heatsink on the CPU I slipped and hit the board. Now I didn't think this would do anything (still don't even know if that's what the problem is) but this computer won't load up and it's pissing me off. Do you guys know how to figure out if a cpu is good or not without having to swap it into another system (and yes I did smell it and it doesn't smell like burned electronics, although the mobo kind of does). Help!!

XMEN Ashaman DTM · Post by **XMEN Ashaman DTM** » Thu May 16, 2002 4:20 pm

Do you have your mobo configured properly? On some motherboards there is a jumper that has to be set to let the MB distinguish between Thunderbird and Palomino cores. For mine, it won't work if you don't have the proper one selected. Don't know how to test a MB or CPU without some additional equipment. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /frown.gif ALT=":("> <img src=http://www.xmenclan.org/avatars/ashaman2.jpg width=150 align=left> <left><a href=http://www.dragontalonmercs.com>Dragon Talon Mercenary</a> <a href=http://www.xmenclan.org>Member of the XMEN</a> Have a Nice Day! "Politics, war, martial arts; these are tools to bend the universe to your will."</left>

Atheist · Post by **Atheist** » Thu May 16, 2002 4:33 pm

As far as I can tell, I have all the jumpers set up properly. That's not a problem. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /frown.gif ALT=":(">

Jester DTM · Post by **Jester DTM** » Thu May 16, 2002 5:46 pm

is your mobo grounding out on the case? and if the fans come up then, my guess is it's the CPU. <table border="2" bordercolor="#420042" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="center"><head><link REL=STYLESHEET HREF="http://www.thzclan.com/jester/jessig.css" TYPE="text/css"></head><tr><td><a href="http://www.thzclan.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.thzclan.com/jester/THZjester1a.jpg" width="240" height="240" border="0"></a></td><td><a href="http://www.thzclan.com/cam" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.thzclan.com/jester/cam/ccam.jpg" width="320" height="240" border="0"></a></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" align="center" bgcolor="#000000" id="jessig"><a href="mailto:jester@thzclan.com">THZ*Jester[DTM]</a> Cerberus of <a href="http://www.thzclan.com" target="_blank">The Hounds of Zeus</a> Professional Hitman for <a href="http://www.xmenclan.org" target="_blank">The XMEN</a> Evil App Admin for the <a href="http://www.dragontalonmercs.com" target="_blank">Dragon Talon Mercenaries</a> <a href="http://12.229.123.86:8000/listen.pls">Battle Ground Radio</a></td></tr></table>

Post by **XMEN Gambit** » Thu May 16, 2002 6:47 pm

AFAIK, in that situation, there's not a good way to tell without swapping one or the other. Iceman, Hammer and I wrestled with one for many hours not too long ago. Went through multiple variations of both parts - more than one was bad. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /frown.gif ALT=":(">

XMEN Iceman · Post by **XMEN Iceman** » Thu May 16, 2002 6:50 pm

I would guess the CPU. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /frown.gif ALT=":("> Oh...and try another vid card just to isolate that out. Pull all unnecessary cards to be sure. <table border="0"><tr><td><embed align="left" src="http://www.thzclan.com/avatars/ezice.swf" menu="false" quality="high" bgcolor="#000000" width="217" height="166" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/dow ... <td><table border="0" style='Filter: Shadow(Color=#BB1403,Direction=255)'><tr><td>XMEN Iceman [DTM] Founder and Leader of the Base Tribes XMEN Clan Proud member of the Dragon Talon Mercenaries teamplayers Guild Citizen of New Fenecia "You weren't much of a challenge" - T2 bot after killing Iceman - click on avatar for links - no, not sausage links!</td></tr></table></td></tr></table>

Ambush Bug · Post by **Ambush Bug** » Thu May 16, 2002 6:54 pm

Yeah, if you try and boot up without the vidcard at all, the mobo should shriek like a baby. Since you also mentioned the heatsink colliding with the board, I'd whip out a magnifying glass and see if any of the metal traces are scratched or broken on the board... a broken trace'll kill one for sure. <img src=http://scribers.midwestmail.com/ambushbug/BugSig.jpg align=LEFT> Member: DTM, XMEN Professional Tank Driver Card-carrying Base-Cracker Ugly Son-Of-A-Gun Bug's Tank Bumper Sticker: "If you can read this, you're already street pizza."

Atheist · Post by **Atheist** » Thu May 16, 2002 9:08 pm

Well, the guy I got the mobo from is going to send me a new one. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)"> Now if it's the CPU, I'm gonna have to break my foot off in somebody's ass. It's not the video card, I'm using that same vid card in this system with no problems.

XMEN Iceman · Post by **XMEN Iceman** » Thu May 16, 2002 9:21 pm

Just curious, might help me, what type/model CPU and mobo is this? <table border="0"><tr><td><embed align="left" src="http://www.thzclan.com/avatars/ezice.swf" menu="false" quality="high" bgcolor="#000000" width="217" height="166" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/dow ... <td><table border="0" style='Filter: Shadow(Color=#BB1403,Direction=255)'><tr><td>XMEN Iceman [DTM] Founder and Leader of the Base Tribes XMEN Clan Proud member of the Dragon Talon Mercenaries teamplayers Guild Citizen of New Fenecia "You weren't much of a challenge" - T2 bot after killing Iceman - click on avatar for links - no, not sausage links!</td></tr></table></td></tr></table>

XMEN Ashaman DTM · Post by **XMEN Ashaman DTM** » Thu May 16, 2002 11:37 pm

Ath: Wear shoes. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"> <img src=http://www.xmenclan.org/avatars/ashaman2.jpg width=150 align=left> <left><a href=http://www.dragontalonmercs.com>Dragon Talon Mercenary</a> <a href=http://www.xmenclan.org>Member of the XMEN</a> Have a Nice Day! "Politics, war, martial arts; these are tools to bend the universe to your will."</left>

Atheist · Post by **Atheist** » Fri May 17, 2002 4:38 am

Asha: LOL! Icey: It's an AMD XP 1800+ on an Asus A7V266-E. I don't know if that'll help any. BTW - Thanks for the ideas guys, this is bugging (no offense AB) the hell out of me!

Atheist · Post by **Atheist** » Tue Jun 04, 2002 10:18 am

Alright.. it's not the mobo. I just got a replacement and I still get the same problem. It must be the CPU and I must be an idiot. Tell me something... when you put Arctic Ice 3 and it gets on the bridges on the top of the chip, will that short the chip out? If that's the case that explains why my new system doesn't work. *sighs*

XMEN Iceman · Post by **XMEN Iceman** » Tue Jun 04, 2002 11:00 am

Yep, happened to me. You can try using rubbing alcohol to clean them, but it may be too late. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /frown.gif ALT=":("> <table border="0"><tr><td><embed align="left" src="http://www.thzclan.com/avatars/ezice.swf" menu="false" quality="high" bgcolor="#000000" width="217" height="166" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/dow ... <td><table border="0" style='Filter: Shadow(Color=#BB1403,Direction=255)'><tr><td>XMEN Iceman [DTM] Founder and Leader of the Base Tribes XMEN Clan Proud member of the Dragon Talon Mercenaries teamplayers Guild Citizen of New Fenecia "You weren't much of a challenge" - T2 bot after killing Iceman - click on avatar for links - no, not sausage links!</td></tr></table></td></tr></table>

XMEN Ashaman DTM · Post by **XMEN Ashaman DTM** » Tue Jun 04, 2002 1:49 pm

It depends on which bridges, I think. Also, you gotta watch the heatsink and how it relates to the RAM. I have the same board, and have a slight concern about my heatsink and hoses getting close to the RAM chips. Also, gotta watch those damn capacitors on the side! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... ns/mad.gif ALT=">:"> I like the RAID option on the board though. It's nice. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /smile.gif ALT=":)"> <img src=http://www.xmenclan.org/avatars/ashaman2.jpg width=150 align=left> <left><a href=http://www.dragontalonmercs.com>Dragon Talon Mercenary</a> <a href=http://www.xmenclan.org>Member of the XMEN</a> Have a Nice Day! "Politics, war, martial arts; these are tools to bend the universe to your will."</left>

XMEN Iceman · Post by **XMEN Iceman** » Tue Jun 04, 2002 2:23 pm

Yeah...that Raid is nice....and it helps keep the roach population down in his case. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> <table border="0"><tr><td><embed align="left" src="http://www.thzclan.com/avatars/ezice.swf" menu="false" quality="high" bgcolor="#000000" width="217" height="166" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/dow ... <td><table border="0" style='Filter: Shadow(Color=#BB1403,Direction=255)'><tr><td>XMEN Iceman [DTM] Founder and Leader of the Base Tribes XMEN Clan Proud member of the Dragon Talon Mercenaries teamplayers Guild Citizen of New Fenecia "You weren't much of a challenge" - T2 bot after killing Iceman - click on avatar for links - no, not sausage links!</td></tr></table></td></tr></table>

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