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Posted: **Fri Feb 28, 2003 5:41 pm**

Ok since I sent a real NASTY letter to our internet provider , we'vw had really good DL and Upload speeds .. Most of the time :/ Anyhow even since thats better our ping is still screwed <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("> So is there ANYTHING anyone can think of that could cause this ? Ive checked all eathernet cards to see if that it, and not sure how or if it could be router or eathernet converter for wireless. So any ideals would be appriciated <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> <img src="http://www.xmenclan.org/avatars/hammer_ ...  Proud Member of the XMEN Clan Proud Member of the Dragon Talon Mercenaries If you run, you will only die tired.

Posted: **Fri Feb 28, 2003 5:55 pm**

Run a traceroute to something. What that does is ping every server and router between you and the destination. By looking at where the numbers slow down, you can see where the problem lies. To run a traceroute, you need to get to a DOS prompt. (Start->Run->"cmd"<ENTER> works on 2k and XP) Then type tracert www.yahoo.com or tracert 64.48.179.30 That IP is for the fishplex, btw. You'll see something like this: <pre> Tracing route to www.yahoo.akadns.net [64.58.76.223]over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 10.1.1.99 2 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms 10.176.112.1 3 30 ms 50 ms 60 ms 12.244.112.1 4 10 ms 20 ms 20 ms 12.244.69.1 5 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms 12.244.73.2 6 20 ms 20 ms 10 ms gbr6-p80.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.123.17.30] 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 10 ms 40 ms 20 ms ggr1-p340.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.12.74](snip...)</pre> Each server is pinged 3 times. The first column is the number of "hops" to get to that server, the next three are the ping times to the server, and the last number is the server identification if it has one and IP addy if not. You'll see a * if a server can't be pinged due to a timeout or firewall or whatever. It won't fix your problem, but it will show you if it's yours, your providers, or beyond. Sometimes your provider can use it to fix the problem. <img src="http://www.xmenclan.org/xmengambit.gif"/> XMEN member Card-carrying DTM OKL Fish-napper Though a program be but three lines long, someday it will have to be maintained.  The Tao of Programming

Posted: **Fri Feb 28, 2003 7:49 pm**

is 14 hops from here to the mfp bad? COLORS!

Posted: **Fri Feb 28, 2003 9:49 pm**

Not really. I like just like 40 miles from it, but my provider puts me through 9 hops. C: \ tracert 64.48.179.30 Tracing route to 64.48.179.30 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 10.1.1.100 2 38 ms 38 ms 38 ms 66.64.2.1 3 40 ms 39 ms 39 ms FTWOTXPE-BGP.BKBN.IP.NET [66.64.0.185] 4 42 ms 42 ms 42 ms 66.64.0.141 5 41 ms 41 ms 40 ms 64.245.102.5 6 41 ms 41 ms 41 ms dfw10-core2-so-7-2- 0.atlas.algx.net [165.117.192 .73] 7 41 ms 41 ms 41 ms dfw10-core4-g2-0.atlas.algx.net [165.117.172.68] 8 42 ms 41 ms 41 ms SO-0-1-0.ALGX-CTR- 2.JNPR.DFW.algx.net [64.48.145 .142] 9 44 ms 44 ms 44 ms 64.48.179.30 Trace complete. <table border="0"><tr><td><embed align="left" src="http://www.thzclan.com/avatars/ezice.swf" menu="false" quality="high" bgcolor="#000000" width="217" height="166" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/dow ... <td><table border="0" style='Filter: Shadow(Color=#BB1403,Direction=255)'><tr><td>XMEN Iceman [DTM] Founder and Leader of the Base Tribes XMEN Clan Proud member of the Dragon Talon Mercenaries teamplayers Guild Member of THZ - The Hounds of Zeus clan "You weren't much of a challenge" - T2 bot after killing Iceman - click on avatar for links - no, not sausage links!</td></tr></table></td></tr></table>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub141.ezboard.com/bxmenclan.sho ... ceman>XMEN Iceman </A> at: 2/28/03 9:50:45 pm

Posted: **Fri Feb 28, 2003 11:11 pm**

Heck, I have 12 hops just to get out of AT&T's network and into the rest of the world. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> The fewer hops, the better, but the real test is the ping times. <img src="http://www.xmenclan.org/xmengambit.gif"/> XMEN member Card-carrying DTM OKL Fish-napper Though a program be but three lines long, someday it will have to be maintained.  The Tao of Programming

Posted: **Sat Mar 01, 2003 3:20 pm**

I have 15 Hops to the Fishplex, and 12 to Yahoo.com. But my ping to the MFP is only 58. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> <div style="text-align:center">I HATE EZBOARD!!!</div>

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2003 8:53 am**

Ok heres a lot of typing for me <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("> Tracing route to 64.48.179.30 over a maximun of 30 hops <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("> 1 2ms 2ms 2ms 10.1.1.99 2 201ms 47ms 23ms gateway2.txun.net [12.47.140.2] 3 135ms 51ms 83ms 12.119.194.137 4 45ms 34ms 69ms gbr5-p51.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.12.65] 5 33ms 48ms 64ms tbr1-p012401.dsltx.ip.att.net [12.122.12.65] 6 45ms 43ms 50ms ggr1-p340,dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.12.74] 7 43ms 61ms 80ms att-gw.dal.algx.net [192.205.32.122] 8 61ms 55ms 60ms dfw3-core2-pos7-0.atlas.algx.net [165.117.48.125] 9 160ms 39ms 43ms dfw10-per10-pos5-0.atlas.algx.net [165.117.192.13<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"> 10 43ms 60ms 39ms dfw10-core2-so-7-2-0.atlas.algx.net [165.117.192.73] 11 72ms 45ms 62ms dfw10-core4-g2-0.atlas.algx.net [165.117.172.68] 12 36ms 35ms 42ms SO-0-1-0.ALGX-CTR_2.JNPR.DFW.algx.net [64.48.145.142] 13 38ms 53ms 67ms 64.48.179.30 Trace complete. Ok now this was earlier Sunday morning and my DL speed @ DSL report was: 2003-03-02 09:53:11 EST: 392 / 72 Your download speed : 392429 bps, or 392 kbps. A 47.9 KB/sec transfer rate. Your upload speed : 72555 bps, or 72 kbps. <img src="http://www.xmenclan.org/avatars/hammer_ ...  Proud Member of the XMEN Clan Proud Member of the Dragon Talon Mercenaries If you run, you will only die tired.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2003 2:25 pm**

Not many hops, which is good, but you have to do this when you're having problems if you want to identify the location of the problem. BTW - you can cut & paste the results, you don't have to type them. Use the mouse to highlight the area you're interested in, then hit ENTER to copy it to the clipboard. Then you can paste it into the post with a CTRL-V, or right-click & "paste" Hop #1, 10.1.1.99, is the router in your closet. Hop #2 is a router or server at your provider, txun.net. Notice the 201 ms ping there - one out of three is not an issue, but if you repeatedly see high pings (or *) there, it is. Hop #3 is probably AT&T's, because it's reasonably close to the address of hop #4 which definitely is, and AT&T is a huge enough company it probably has that whole range. So basically, if the ping numbers start jumping higher at hop #2 or maybe #3, it's probably your provider's problem. If it's at hop #4 or beyond, there's nothing you can do about it. <img src="http://www.xmenclan.org/xmengambit.gif"/> XMEN member Card-carrying DTM OKL Fish-napper Though a program be but three lines long, someday it will have to be maintained.  The Tao of Programming

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2003 6:49 pm**

K thanks <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> Will watch it in future <img src="http://www.xmenclan.org/avatars/hammer_ ...  Proud Member of the XMEN Clan Proud Member of the Dragon Talon Mercenaries If you run, you will only die tired.

Posted: **Mon Mar 03, 2003 7:55 pm**

Ok so I've been checking off and on and heres what I've found. When our connection is bad its bad between my router and their server as high as 3500 just between us <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("> So that just proves it my service not the internet right ? the high number is just after my router pings..after that it generally doesn't ping the rest it times out.. <img src="http://www.xmenclan.org/avatars/hammer_ ...  Proud Member of the XMEN Clan Proud Member of the Dragon Talon Mercenaries If you run, you will only die tired.

Posted: **Mon Mar 03, 2003 9:17 pm**

Yup. Send the trace output in an email to your provider to show you sorta know what you're talking about. When I do that I normally run a pair of "date" and "time" commands from the prompt before and after the trace. Oh, and while the trace is timing out, if you want to interrupt it you can press CTRL-C. <img src="http://www.xmenclan.org/xmengambit.gif"/> XMEN member Card-carrying DTM OKL Fish-napper Though a program be but three lines long, someday it will have to be maintained.  The Tao of Programming

Posted: **Tue Mar 04, 2003 6:50 pm**

Thanks GAM <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> I'm sure that my service doesn't like it since you make me look soooooo smart showing all this to them <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> <img src="http://www.xmenclan.org/avatars/hammer_ ...  Proud Member of the XMEN Clan Proud Member of the Dragon Talon Mercenaries If you run, you will only die tired.

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