Ravok -- A Postulate

XMEN Ravok99 · Post by **XMEN Ravok99** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:45 am

Question: Can two suns move directionally towards each other, and yet, instead of being pushed into a binary system - swirl, accelerate, and move beyond one slowing down, and the other speeding up? Second Question: At high gravitational speeds, can a something speed near to a blackhole accelerated beyond the speed of light barrier due to the effects of the blackhole enough to escape the pull of the event horizon (or at such an angle of attack), to therefore 'create' a particle/thing that is moving inside our known universe that is moving faster than light? Postulate: If so, what would these events mean in terms of solar/universal potentialities and physics? I hope this gives everyone something fun to think about. I wish I could ask Steven Hawking or someone like him about it. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> Well, onward to my religious stuffs. See you all as I can. "Death is not the end."-Ravok

Scorch · Post by **Scorch** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:34 pm

I believe the answers to those questions are yes and no (in that order)

Post by **XMEN Gambit** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:28 pm

Nothing known in our universe can have both mass and a velocity equal to or greater than light. Black hole or no. There are tricks one can play with the event horizon of a black hole, that might make something appear to an observer to dip inside the event horizon and back out, but I think that has to do with how we define the event horizon. Though the other thing with the two suns, or masses, happens relatively frequently. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p090.ezboard.com/bxmenclan.showU ... ambit>XMEN Gambit</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.xmenclan.org/images/x.gif" BORDER=0> at: 8/16/04 5:30 pm

XMEN Ashaman DTM · Post by **XMEN Ashaman DTM** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:27 pm

If you were to fly past a black hole with the hope of getting a speed boost, you would. But the speed boost may come about by increasing your spin rate after you were sufficiently far away from the black hole (think a hyperbolic orbit... satellite comes screaming in, then speeds off in a very different direction, never to retunr). In the case of something moving close to lightspeed encountering a black hole the effect is less pronounced in terms of changing your velocity. Your rate of spin may speed up. But it's more likely that you would appear more redshifted to observers away from the black hole and yourself (not moving at either one's speed). What a redshift means is that the information about you is spread out over a greater amount of space. So, from someone on earth watching a star moving at a speed close to lightspeed, we would see the object's image moved downward in frequency (say from visible light to radio waves). A redshift is basically the result that we see of the "information wave" that propagates from the object being stretched out over more space because the object is moving away from you (relative to your position and velocity). A blueshift is a squeez and occurs as more information is crammed into a tighter space. Yes, a wave can have a wave speed that is much faster than the speed of light. It happens all the time when electromagnetic waves propagate through earth's ionosphere. But any information associated with that wave can only travel at the speed of light. Even if there are more than 3 dimensions, or 200 dimensions, the speed of light is still the limiting factor in exchanging information. However, it may be possible for information to be transmitted in a separate, decoupled dimension (one that doesn't interfere with what we see; length, width, depth, time). The problem is getting the information over to the other dimension to be propagated at lightspeed in that dimension, then getting the information back to our dimensions. (I'm talking dimensions like length, breadth, width, etc.) So far, there is no firm experimental proof of extra dimensions. There is data from quantum mechanics that suggests that the extra dimensions are why we see interference patters when doing diffraction experiments: the interference is because of single photons ending up in certain areas by chance, but in other dimensions, those photons end up opposite than what we see. The idea is the same if you consider the idea of parallel universes; those universes account for all possible outcomes in quantum mechanics. But so far, the only experiment that may prove the existence of extra dimensions is slated to be run in the latter part of this decade. There is a particle smasher being built that will attempt to create miniature black holes. If the black holes are easy to make (relatively speaking), then that's because the energy needed to make one is spread out over many dimensions (and thus has a lower energy level needed to give rise to black holes). If the black holes are hard to make, then that means the energy was spread amongst a few dimensions, and thus you needed a higher concentration of energy in those dimensions to get a black hole. The black hole still has the same total energy of creation in each case. Oh and the black holes are massless, which means that they'll evaporate shortly after they are made. If they had mass, as in composed of matter, then they would attract other matter in their ground state (they wouldn't be decaying).

XMEN Ravok99 · Post by **XMEN Ravok99** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:24 pm

Yeah, you folks are great at this stuff. I always have a ton of astronomy and physics questions, but no math to back an answer up. I tried to study it, but didn't do so good. Thanks a lot for giving my imagination some facts to work with. Is cosmology wonderful or what? Chemistry, Biology, Physics, Mathematics, History and Religion in a full package. I guess that is why I always want more info - because I keep dreaming stuff up and its all sci-fi. I will see what my brain focuses on next. Right now, I am wondering if the mountain ranges in South America and Central America can be adapted to pull enough water into a canal operation for Panama. So that the engineers could have a large enough body of water someplace that could feed a channel system large enough for large boats. I figure it would be an underground oceanic device, that could draw water pump by pump // lock by lock // up one side, or something, and then push that same force down the other side causing the sides to rise and fall from one set of highlands to the other. Or something. Any of you braniacs that can work on a new canal system for Panama would sure be a great boon to the world as a whole. There's a lot in Central and South America that is worth supporting - a lot that is also needing work, but hope is a start. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> See ya all when I can! "Death is not the end."-Ravok

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