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Gads, I've been looking forward to this all week.<br><br>NWN night YEAH! You guys know the drill, let's get the plot and characters to progress even further. One more segment and we finish chapter one!<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>PS. I've got further in my own mod... Can't wait until it's even in the alpha stages. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

My Snow Demons warned me that you would come to me again. I shall be wary and ready with my shield. <p></p><i></i>

Would you mind if I joined?<br><br>Or is it a chapter farther along than where I am at, or requires a character of a high level?<br><br>If that's the case, when?<br> <p><br><img src=http://www.xmenclan.org/avatars/ashaman2.jpg width=150 align=left><br><left><a href=http://www.dragontalonmercs.com>Dragon Talon Mercenary</a><br><a href=http://www.xmenclan.org>Member of the XMEN</a><br>Have a Nice Day!<br><br>"Politics, war, martial arts;<br>these are tools to bend the <br>universe to your will."</left><br><br><br><p><i>Edited by: <a href=http://pub3.ezboard.com/uxmengambit.sho ... ge=EN>XMEN Gambit</a> <img src=http://www.xmenclan.org/images/x.gif> at: 7/14/02 8:16:26 pm</i></p></p><i></i>

You should be fine. Just check your ICQ. I've sent you the details. <p></p><i></i>

Hey Ath, did you drop at the end, or did you quit? We're here in ICQ, if you get this message. <p><center><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=5><td><img border="0" src="http://www.xmenclan.org/avatars/t2red.g ... ><td><font size=5>RedSirus<a href=mailto:redsirus@dragontalonmercs.com>@</a></font><br><br><a target=_top href=http://www.dragontalonmercs.com>Dragon Talon Mercenary</a> > <a target=_top href=http://server2.ezboard.com/bdragontalon ... ><br><font size=2><a target=_top href=http://pub18.ezboard.com/bdtmonlinecommunity>DTM Community</a> > <a target=_top href=http://pub18.ezboard.com/fdtmonlinecomm ... s>RedSirus' Reviews</a></font><br><br><a target=_top href=http://www.xmenclan.org>Brainwashed Fishmonger</a> > <a target=_top href=http://pub3.ezboard.com/bxmenclan>Forum ... </p><i></i>

I am a bit unsettled, I didnt think Ath shoulda gotten TK'ed for what he did with the Demon. It was his choice, and even though he is evil, we roleplayed it and that was what was done.<br><br>He was stuck between a rock and a hard place, and we debated, and finally left it up to him to decide. We went back on our word to him by TK'ing him, and now that should open up a whole slew of new possibilities to Atheist as far as roleplaying goes.<br><br>Anyways, we are roleplaying the game really well, but we need Krokan's help through the game, so let's allow him the XP to level up by not TK'ing him so often. <p></p><i></i>

I'm going to disagree here, actually.<br><br>BTW (READ THIS FIRST!!!!!!!!!) Mad kudos to EVERYONE for roleplaying tonight. All four of us did a cool job, and I'm not angry at anyone for the actions of their character. We had enough OCing going on to assure each other that we weren't trying to screw each other over. What follows is my idea on the theory of roleplaying, alignment, and consequences:::<br><br><br>From an RPing standpoint, we were fine letting him choose, and he was fine with choosing evil. But in most D&D settings I've seen, when it has that kind of consequences, the next acceptable RPing step is that the character-turned-evil (or merely-now-showing-himself) is drummed out of the party, or sometimes even killed (or at least attacked, since he's the new 'villain').<br><br>The option at the alter that Krokan choose is, from what I can tell, the path you "should" (you never have to do anything) take if you're playing it the 'evil way', but we're not an evil party. We're, on the whole, a good one. And when the evil character screws up the good guys quests, I'd imagine a rift forming.<br><br>As far as a 'real' (tabletop) D&D game is concerned, this event would usually remove Krokan from the party to the wonderful realm of NPChood, and the player would make a new character. Unless the party could RP some way to keep him, and at the time, ours couldn't.<br><br><br>Once again, a very cool night. And this one made us *think*. <p><center><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=5><td><img border="0" src="http://www.xmenclan.org/avatars/t2red.g ... ><td><font size=5>RedSirus<a href=mailto:redsirus@dragontalonmercs.com>@</a></font><br><br><a target=_top href=http://www.dragontalonmercs.com>Dragon Talon Mercenary</a> > <a target=_top href=http://server2.ezboard.com/bdragontalon ... ><br><font size=2><a target=_top href=http://pub18.ezboard.com/bdtmonlinecommunity>DTM Community</a> > <a target=_top href=http://pub18.ezboard.com/fdtmonlinecomm ... s>RedSirus' Reviews</a></font><br><br><a target=_top href=http://www.xmenclan.org>Brainwashed Fishmonger</a> > <a target=_top href=http://pub3.ezboard.com/bxmenclan>Forum ... ><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub141.ezboard.com/bxmenclan.sho ... s</A>&nbsp; <IMG SRC="http://theta_mercenaries.homestead.com/files/xmen.gif" BORDER=0> at: 11/22/02 2:15:53 am<br></i>

Sorry I missed it. I didn't get a response on ICQ, so I went up to the gym to work out.<br><br> <p><br><img src=http://www.xmenclan.org/avatars/ashaman2.jpg width=150 align=left><br><left><a href=http://www.dragontalonmercs.com>Dragon Talon Mercenary</a><br><a href=http://www.xmenclan.org>Member of the XMEN</a><br>Have a Nice Day!<br><br>"Politics, war, martial arts;<br>these are tools to bend the <br>universe to your will."</left><br><br><br><p><i>Edited by: <a href=http://pub3.ezboard.com/uxmengambit.sho ... ge=EN>XMEN Gambit</a> <img src=http://www.xmenclan.org/images/x.gif> at: 7/14/02 8:16:26 pm</i></p></p><i></i>

Dude..<br><br>First off... HOW can you know what my alignment is? I told you I was evil, fair enough. But from a character standpoint, all you guys know about Krokan is that he is ill-tempered, street smart (hence killing guards after robbing a place) and perhaps a sadist. Not once did I ever tip my hand to point out in char that I was evil. Not once. Check your logs, if you must. Krokan has int 17. Maybe his wisdom is low, but perhaps that's why he's evil. He's certainly not dumb enough to tip his hand one way or another. For all you guys really should have known, he might have been neutral. Seriously. Guess what his alignment really was. Guess.<br><br>Secondly, When I sent you out of the room with the demon, it wasn't so I could summon it. I even left the party hoping that it wouldn't show up on your screens. The reason I made you guys leave the room is so that I could do what I wanted to do without your characters knowing what it was I was doing.<br><br>I mean, seriously. You're in another room, and god knows what I'm doing in the demon room. For all your characters know I made him return. I blame NWN for that (as well, there's no way you guys should have found out that I joined the mage's guild, that's just as irritating. How can I keep things mysterious and secretive as a mage, if you guys know everything I'm doing?), however, in announcing to the world what I did. That's not RPing. There's no way you guys would have known. What that would have done was made you suspicious because you didn't know which way I'd chosen. I mean, I never even told you guys that I was going to summon him. I just said that I was thinking about it and wanted your opinions. Then I sent you out of the room. Did you think I cared if he attacked you? Hell no. Krokan couldn't give a rat's ass. It's what happens afterwards that he's worried about - when you guys decided that he was a bad guy (for no discernible reason).<br><br>Enough of this. If we were seriously RPing, there's no way RS would be allowed to keep a character because it had already levelled up after we reloaded. I mean, I don't care, but seriously, you do one thing then say another? Come one, man.<br><br>Furthermore, since when did Vera become the Harbinger of light? Shouldn't that be the *palladin's* job? Or maybe the cleric's? But a Rogue? Maybe, if it was in her best interests. Further, isn't killing an evil act? In cold blood. After promising otherwise? Interesting.<br><br>You do the math. In the end, I found that I was just wasting my time. I would also like to say that if it continues this way, you can consider me out of it. If I have to wear my alignment on my sleeve, then I'd rather play it single player. Spouting off "ooh, spooky" every time I cast a spell is both tiresome, and irritating, and all because you want proof that I'm an evil character.<br><br>Aside from that, if you guys had proof one way or another, then I would have accepted my fate, but there's none that you can offer me to tell me that I played the character wrong. He was conniving, deceitful, and above all else a great actor. But because I told you all that he was evil (outside of character, no less), all of a sudden your player char's marked him as being such. That's not right. <p></p><i></i>

Personally, my roleplaying experience just isnt the same without Krokan in the party. He adds spice to the mix, and I dont see how what he did with the demon showed good or evil, all we know is that the temple thing was fouled.<br><br>My Paladin probably wont stay at his current alignment, but if you notice, it isn't bothering him much. He is on a mission of vengeance to the ones that caused the death of his Witch due to the Wailing Death.<br><br>His Lawful status will stay with him, but he may become Nuetral or Evil so long as he gets to destroy the thing that killed his Witch.<br><br>Its the mission that drives him, more than his Deity. I have it in mind to make him a Cleric for a level so that I balance his rage with a level as a holy man. <br><br>Let's roll with the punches, its a great game, and unlike tabletop RP'ing we are stuck with the characters we start with. Unless you want him to re-roll a character and get stuck at level one again... Personally, I am against that option. <p></p><i></i>

Asha<br><br>Dude, I tossed you an ICQ! I tossed like 4!<br><br>I was hoping you'd come and join us! <p></p><i></i>

Alright, things have been smoothed over in ICQ. We've reached the following conclusions.<br><br><br>1) We had some conflicting views tonight, and while people thought they were doing the right thing, when RPing conflicting interests, we can step on each other without actually meaning to.<br>2) Vera should NEVER try to "threaten" people. (+3d6 automatic sneak attack damage is hard to 'hold back')<br>3) Communication is always important.<br>4) Atheist smells like ASS! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>5) THZ*KitZune can't hold his liquor.<br>6) Sleep is good. Goodnight, folks. <p><center><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=5><td><img border="0" src="http://www.xmenclan.org/avatars/t2red.g ... ><td><font size=5>RedSirus<a href=mailto:redsirus@dragontalonmercs.com>@</a></font><br><br><a target=_top href=http://www.dragontalonmercs.com>Dragon Talon Mercenary</a> > <a target=_top href=http://server2.ezboard.com/bdragontalon ... ><br><font size=2><a target=_top href=http://pub18.ezboard.com/bdtmonlinecommunity>DTM Community</a> > <a target=_top href=http://pub18.ezboard.com/fdtmonlinecomm ... s>RedSirus' Reviews</a></font><br><br><a target=_top href=http://www.xmenclan.org>Brainwashed Fishmonger</a> > <a target=_top href=http://pub3.ezboard.com/bxmenclan>Forum ... ><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub141.ezboard.com/bxmenclan.sho ... s</A>&nbsp; <IMG SRC="http://theta_mercenaries.homestead.com/files/xmen.gif" BORDER=0> at: 11/22/02 3:51:15 am<br></i>

That's weird, Ath...<br><br>I didn't get a single one.<br><br>I was even wondering if you were sending me ICQ's. But I did notice that your icon showed you as away. Sorry dude. I would have stepped in if I had gotten the messages.<br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Maybe next time? Err... that's thanksgiving. I'll be around, but I'm not sure who else will be.<br> <p><br><img src=http://www.xmenclan.org/avatars/ashaman2.jpg width=150 align=left><br><left><a href=http://www.dragontalonmercs.com>Dragon Talon Mercenary</a><br><a href=http://www.xmenclan.org>Member of the XMEN</a><br>Have a Nice Day!<br><br>"Politics, war, martial arts;<br>these are tools to bend the <br>universe to your will."</left><br><br><br><p><i>Edited by: <a href=http://pub3.ezboard.com/uxmengambit.sho ... ge=EN>XMEN Gambit</a> <img src=http://www.xmenclan.org/images/x.gif> at: 7/14/02 8:16:26 pm</i></p></p><i></i>

I won't be around for thanksgiving. I don't think Rav will be either. So it'll probably be the week after. <p></p><i></i>

Sweet!<br><br>I just realized that the next time I run ICQ, I'll get spammed from Ath!<br><br>I'll feel so special...<br> <p><br><img src=http://www.xmenclan.org/avatars/ashaman2.jpg width=150 align=left><br><left><a href=http://www.dragontalonmercs.com>Dragon Talon Mercenary</a><br><a href=http://www.xmenclan.org>Member of the XMEN</a><br>Have a Nice Day!<br><br>"Politics, war, martial arts;<br>these are tools to bend the <br>universe to your will."</left><br><br><br><p><i>Edited by: <a href=http://pub3.ezboard.com/uxmengambit.sho ... ge=EN>XMEN Gambit</a> <img src=http://www.xmenclan.org/images/x.gif> at: 7/14/02 8:16:26 pm</i></p></p><i></i>