http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/26/technol ... tm?cnn=yes
MS users are guilty until proven innocent, apparently.
Only legit Windows users get updates
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Only legit Windows users get updates
... starting in mid-year, this year. In case you hadn't heard:
http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/26/technol ... tm?cnn=yes
MS users are guilty until proven innocent, apparently.
http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/26/technol ... tm?cnn=yes
MS users are guilty until proven innocent, apparently.
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Oddly enough... I'm in complete agreement with MS about this method of anti-piracy. Some negative behaviors//crimes cannot be legislated out of existence, but must instead be ostracized into nothingness.
Yeah, sounds crazy, but piracy isn't a criminal problem, it's a socioeconomic problem. Economic (as in the case of Adobe Photoshop's continuing price-hiking making their piracy problem worse rather than better), and social, where piracy is sometimes seen as the cool thing to do.
Imagine the situation once MS starts locking out pirated copies of Windows from feature updates.
"Hey Bob, the new MS Program X was unlocked today!"
"It did? I don't have it."
"You don't? Did you pirate your copy of Windows?"
"Er, yes."
"l00ser!"
Well, that won't be the word-for-word, but I think you get the drift. MS is trying to make a social stigma out of piracy by bribing users with new features. Not a new approach, but one rarely used in this day and age of rampant lawyerism.
Now, as for China... that's a whole other kettle of fish. The Chinese are the International Grand Masters of Organized Software Piracy. I oughta know, they yoinked enough copies of DxR's products when I was working back there. I remember that the most difficult part of supporting our Chinese users was determining who was honestly needing help and who was trying to scam the hell out of us. Diffuclt in e-mail, let me tell you.
Piracy as a social stigma won't work over there, period. It's a cultural thing, and their culture is quite different when it comes to intellectual property. Namely, since they have so much piracy, and on such a large scale, the software methods used to stop American//Occidental 'casual pirates' won't work. Some pirate group will crack the software and then distribute it widely, selling it to the average Joe for the equivalent of a buck for a CD.
To stop piracy over there, you have to stop the huge distributors.... and there's a LOT of them, and they don't get hassled much by the goverment that I've seen or heard of.
Sticky situation MS is in. Me, I'm of two minds here, as I have worked for and had my meals paid for by my company's software, but I also cannot stand MS.
You know what the funny thing about all this is? All of this piracy of Windows that's going on is totally MS's own fault. You older geeks may well remember back in the days of Windows 2.0 and 3.x when MS 'carefully ignored' piracy of their operating system. There was a reason for that--they wanted mindshare... and they got it. Boy did they ever. Now it's biting them in the ass.
Yeah, sounds crazy, but piracy isn't a criminal problem, it's a socioeconomic problem. Economic (as in the case of Adobe Photoshop's continuing price-hiking making their piracy problem worse rather than better), and social, where piracy is sometimes seen as the cool thing to do.
Imagine the situation once MS starts locking out pirated copies of Windows from feature updates.
"Hey Bob, the new MS Program X was unlocked today!"
"It did? I don't have it."
"You don't? Did you pirate your copy of Windows?"
"Er, yes."
"l00ser!"
Well, that won't be the word-for-word, but I think you get the drift. MS is trying to make a social stigma out of piracy by bribing users with new features. Not a new approach, but one rarely used in this day and age of rampant lawyerism.
Now, as for China... that's a whole other kettle of fish. The Chinese are the International Grand Masters of Organized Software Piracy. I oughta know, they yoinked enough copies of DxR's products when I was working back there. I remember that the most difficult part of supporting our Chinese users was determining who was honestly needing help and who was trying to scam the hell out of us. Diffuclt in e-mail, let me tell you.
Piracy as a social stigma won't work over there, period. It's a cultural thing, and their culture is quite different when it comes to intellectual property. Namely, since they have so much piracy, and on such a large scale, the software methods used to stop American//Occidental 'casual pirates' won't work. Some pirate group will crack the software and then distribute it widely, selling it to the average Joe for the equivalent of a buck for a CD.
To stop piracy over there, you have to stop the huge distributors.... and there's a LOT of them, and they don't get hassled much by the goverment that I've seen or heard of.
Sticky situation MS is in. Me, I'm of two minds here, as I have worked for and had my meals paid for by my company's software, but I also cannot stand MS.
You know what the funny thing about all this is? All of this piracy of Windows that's going on is totally MS's own fault. You older geeks may well remember back in the days of Windows 2.0 and 3.x when MS 'carefully ignored' piracy of their operating system. There was a reason for that--they wanted mindshare... and they got it. Boy did they ever. Now it's biting them in the ass.
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I don't mind if they want to crack down on illegal copying. I think they should . It's illegal, after all. What I have a problem with, generally, is the methods used by MS/Hollywood/whatever.
In some ways, I see this as a mistake at a critical time for MS. At a time when FireFox is blowing the doors off download records and showing the world what open-source can accomplish... At a time when DRM wars and the SCO lawsuit are making people realize what a mess IP and patent laws have become... At a time when Linux is getting generally rave reviews and starting to make noticable inroads on the desktop, and is available at no charge...
...they decide they're going to start invading people's PCs to make sure the OS is legal before letting them access function X. And Y. And Z.
I think it'll add to the F/OSS movement.
In some ways, I see this as a mistake at a critical time for MS. At a time when FireFox is blowing the doors off download records and showing the world what open-source can accomplish... At a time when DRM wars and the SCO lawsuit are making people realize what a mess IP and patent laws have become... At a time when Linux is getting generally rave reviews and starting to make noticable inroads on the desktop, and is available at no charge...
...they decide they're going to start invading people's PCs to make sure the OS is legal before letting them access function X. And Y. And Z.
I think it'll add to the F/OSS movement.