Battlestar Galactica

TimberWolf · Post by **TimberWolf** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 10:32 am

I think that Roslyn isn't going to play the "Cylon Colaborator" card until she has no choice. Baltar is going to use Zarek to gain numbers in the poll and become a true challenge. Because of this Roslyn will tell Admiral Adama about what she remembered and why Baltar can never have power over the fleet. Roslyn will with hold this information from the fleet in fear that knowing there was a Cylon colaborator would cause distrust between people and the splitting of the fleet when groups start believing that the Military and Government are made up of such colaborators.

From the a Civil war will be on the verge of errupting with Baltar leading one side and Roslyn leading the other with the Battlestars. Through the black market some of Baltars fleet gets military grade weapons and have them retrofitted to some ships to turn them into gun boats. Thinking that the other fleet is relatively defense less, Pegasus is sent in to capture Baltar who at first appears to be cooperating in the "best interest" of his people. In reality the shuttle he is sending over contains the nuke which detonates when the shuttle enters the hangerbay. The explosion destroyes the flight pod and causes a chain reaction of explosions into the main body of the ship. Commander Adama orders the evacuation of Pegasus and for everyone to meet up on Galactica. Unfortunatly Baltar's Gunboats show up to start shooting down the fleeing solders.

After wards a Cylon troop carrier is brought un-noticed into Baltar's fleet where they are disperced into every ship in to positions to capture them quickly but are kept in hiding as a last choice option. Baltar's fleet would have jumped away to an unknown position so that they wouldn't be interupted by Roslyn and the Galactica which are currently trying to salvage what they can of Pegusas which is beyond repairs. Galactica gets some modifications to bring the forward batteries over. Now Galactica is fully operational and fully crewed plus some. The solders that can't fit in Galactica are stationed across the fleet to train local police and to help protect the fleet from internal threats. This story arc will probably last the better part of a season.

Post by **XMEN Gambit** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:05 pm

TW, no one could ever accuse you of not having an imagination.

Porsche, Dee is definitely hot. The thing with her and Lee has been developing for quite some time, actually, like during their workouts.
The bridge crew of the Pegasus will have noticed the difference in behavior and effectiveness between Lee and Commander Engineer whatsisname. Honestly I don't see how Adama would have been able to give him command with his attitudes, which never let up from our perspective. Guess Kara could really really have gotten under his skin, but she usually needs a foothold of some sort to do that. (Tigh's drinking, for example.)
And I love how the writers wedged Rosalyn into that corner where she wants to support "women's rights" but also wants to see that "number" go up so badly. Force the character to choose between unpleasant options and see what bubbles up.

Post by **XMEN Gambit** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:13 am

After watching episode aired 02/24...

Ok, darn it, THAT had me going. For a sec I thought it was revealed that Baltar WAS a Cylon model, then to find out that he's in "Caprica 6's" head like she's in his, and he's pushing her to be more human like she's pushing him to be more Cylon...
Then all the stuff with her and "Sharon" on Caprica... Wow.

We may have glimpsed the light at the end of the tunnel. Or we may be being set up for a big whammy later. So, what happens when Caprica 6 and Baltar meet in person later? Gotta happen, right?

TimberWolf · Post by **TimberWolf** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:54 pm

The events on Caprica definately setup several story lines. Here is what I think may happen:

1: Caprica 6 and Sharon will push for peace with the Humans in their culture. They will show taht their radical perspective of god blinds them to their anti-god practices. From there they will lead a group sent off after the Human fleet to nogotiage peace. Unfortunatly not all of the Cylons agree on their interpretation of gods will and under mine the talks. The Cylons break into two factions, a smaller peace fraction that seeks an alliance with the Humans, and the rest are the war radicals that have been commanding the Cylons to kill all humans.

2: When the peace talks fail, Caprica 6 and Sharon are captured. Baltar sees Caprica 6 and recongnizes her as the one he loved but she has changed. Caprica 6 sees a change in Balter and recognizes that they have both moved in opossite directions and could no longer care for each other. Sharon talks to Cheif Tyrol about her feelings and confesses her guilt of being a Cylon and of what she did to Adama. Admeral Adama recongnizes this new Sharon as being the exact one that had shot him. Eventually the Sharon Cylons are accepted as friends of Humanity are allowed to limited movement on Galactica. Caprica 6 is interagated by Roslyn who reconginezes her as the cylon she saw Baltar with, but with great changes in personality.

3: The baby will eventually rise in the civilian fleet, unknown to anyone is its true heratage. If the show lasts long enough then I can see the child becoming either President or Admeral and leading the humans towards peace with the Cylons that also seek peace. It will take command of the combine fleets to eliminate the radical Cylons that refuse to let humans live.

Why did the Cylongs use nukes to eliminate the humans if they were going to move in and repair everything and take the place of humans? Wouldn't it have been easyer to have just used a biological weapon and then moved in with very little effort? Why do they need bars? It appears they have reconstructed the human race as machines with full intent in replacing the "defective" originals.

XMEN Ashaman DTM · Post by **XMEN Ashaman DTM** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:56 pm

Nukes are very destructive to infratructure. They destroy unhardened electronics, buildings, agriculter and so on. If the choice was to use nukes with the intent of solely killing people, they would have put additives into the bombs to make them produce more harmful radiation and compounds.

Plus, I think the Cylons are making "human" lives for themselves to try and experience being "human". They still haven't figured out exactly what makes humans tick. By trying to be them, they're probably trying to figure it out. They're like little kids trying to be adults, but not really doing it because they're just copying what they see. The Cylons don't see the reasons for why humans are the way they are. Caprica 6 and Sharon are the only ones that are starting to understand. The Sharon on Galactica understands and so does the 6 in the fleet to an extent. The Cylons need to grow up.

Biological weapons would be handy against humans. But might they also harm Cylons? Could be why biological weapons weren't used.

X Rogue · Post by **X Rogue** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:32 pm

I agree, if humans and Cylons can interbreed, it might be difficult for them to use a biological agent. Then again, why aren't Cylons sensitive to radiation? I seem to have missed that.

XMEN Ashaman DTM · Post by **XMEN Ashaman DTM** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:05 am

Radiation damage to cells is usually most harmful when the DNA is damaged. Our DNA doesn't repair itself very well compared to some other species. The cell components usually fair well as long as there is a good copy of DNA around and RNA to run things and make proteins. If the Cylons are part machine, then a part of their bodies must have some kind of DNA replication/repair system. Look at all of the clones... each of those has to be made from exact DNA.

What I'm curious about is who the mastermind of the Cylons is. There are numerous references to God and stuff. But the Centurions couldn't have just made up some experiments with human tissue to figure out how to make hybrid organisms, from the point of view of everything that we've seen so far.

TimberWolf · Post by **TimberWolf** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:03 am

Maybe there was a central computer that had originally operated the Cylons under Human control which was a taken with the Cylons when they left. That computer could have been programmed to evolve in response or advance of its environment and situation. It would have seen that the regular Cylon solder would be unable to sneak into the enemy worlds undetected. So with the idea of killing all humans, which probably was a glitch in the system, it sought out to design a machine that could be passed off as a human so it can infiltrate their worlds and bring down their defenses. The project would have generated many types of human cylons ranging in abilities and human like qualities, which would explain why the Sharon model, refered to as Model 5 in the last episode, has more human like tendencies than Model 6. The master computer was still trying to determin the proper blend to make a loyal cylon unit that can pass as an individual human.

Post by **XMEN Gambit** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:09 pm

Maybe you're right in that the genocide thing is a glitch (though remember that the cylons used to be robotic servants that rebelled). If so, perhaps the human models started out as a means to understanding that got warped.

I've often wondered if their "God" is a mainframe ticking away in a room somewhere, but that's such an old-school cliche. Everything old is new again?

TimberWolf · Post by **TimberWolf** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:58 pm

Here is an idea: what if Baltar is a decendet of the original Cylon creator? Think of it, why did the Cylon's choose to use Baltar instead of just hacking the program behind his back as he made it? It has been seen that Cylons can't be blocked in the computer so why bother interacting with humans? Maybe they choose to because they recognized that Baltar was the decendent of their creator. Thinking that they could bring him into their world to bring themselves closer to god. While they are doing that they can also eliminate the evil that had banished them from their worlds.

TimberWolf · Post by **TimberWolf** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:30 am

Who is going to win the presidential race?

"Lay Down Your Burdens" seems like an interesting end to the second season. The second part airs next week. Do you think they will try to colonize that planet? Will Baltar win the election because of the planet? How many of Starbucks team will make it back?

Did anyone else notice that all the guns in the Captians room on Peguses were gone? Lee's room is mostly empty shelfs from what I saw.

Post by **XMEN Gambit** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:48 pm

I'm thinking Baltar will win the election, and at least some people will attempt to settle the planet.

I didn't notice Lee's room, especially, but I did notice some other things. The Sharon cylon with Starbuck could be recognized by her guy there. He could also tell them about the "Dana" model of cylon (Lucy Lawless) which the fleet hasn't identified yet as a cylon, though she's one of the top news reporters. These things could lead up to Caprica Six reuniting with Baltar, but that'd require a lot more development, of course.

Also, I wondered that if Baltar does become President, he could then become the "dying leader" of prophecy that we all thought Rosalyn was. What could he die of, though? Strangulation?

XMENPorsche · Post by **XMENPorsche** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:18 am

Baltar will win. The SciFi Channel website comes right out and says so.

http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/

I've gotta wonder why Roslin has not yet exposed Baltar as the Cylon collaborator that she knows him to be.

TimberWolf · Post by **TimberWolf** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:35 am

WTF?!?!?!?!?!?! <Season Final>

I hope that episode was nothing but in Baltars head. I can't figure out any way to continue the story as well as it was if it wasn't. The Battlestars are in disrepair and under manned. The population apparently dropped from over 50 thousand to about 35 thousand.

My thought is this is all in Baltars head, since it started when it hit the desk top. It is a lesson for him to see that staying at that planet after Cload 9 was destroyed is a bad choice. That is all I can think of at this moment. I will have to rewatch that episode later after finals.

Post by **XMEN Gambit** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:55 am

I thought that at first, and it may still be true, but I dunno... Somehow they have to advance the timeline so that the Cylon baby is old enough to (do something).

Also, because the fleet is undermanned, they could perhaps transfer all the battlestar personnel to ONE of the two warships, and use the other for a decoy or sacrificial "queen" (think chess) in order to get the people off-world and running once again.

A more immediate question is what are the Cylons going to do with the human colony now?

Wonder if Mr. Gaeta (sp) regretted catching the election fraud after dealing with Baltar in office for a year.

Did you notice that Gina's spine didn't do the glowy thing when she and Baltar were in bed?

What will they do with the Sharon model that's been living with the humans? Also, didn't we see her on the surface, though Helo was manning a console on the Galactica? So wassup with that?